The lengthy and far-ranging conversation touches on everything from the tea party (Shays thinks the movement’s impact is mixed) to waterboarding (which he says he can see being used “in rare circumstances.”)
Shays lost the 2012 Republican primary for U.S. Senate to multimillionaire Linda McMahon, who he described as a celebrity.
“I mean, she was on TV and so on, so I mean, I learned a lesson that I didn’t like … You’re asking me, I’m not complaining … What I observed was that Republicans love people who have money. And the good side of this is, well, it shows that they live — in many cases live — the American dream, and they appreciate that. But they didn’t seem to care how her money was made ….
“Dirty money beats no money most of the time.”
The entire interview is worth a read.