CEA: Teachers Support AWB, Background Chex, Oppose Arming Educators

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The Connecticut Education Association today released a survey of 400 teachers today saying teachers support stricter gun controls. They are opposed to arming teachers in schools, according to the survey, which took place between Jan.19 and Jan. 21. It has a margin of error of 4.9 percent.

“This is the first time teachers have been asked for their opinion in a comprehensive manner that is representative of educators’ views across Connecticut,” said CEA Executive Director Mark Waxenberg in a statement released Monday morning. “We want legislators to establish new and strengthened laws that protect the overall safety of children, schools, and our communities—including commonsense gun laws and funding to address safety issues in public schools,” he added.

  • – 88 percent of teachers surveyed support banning the sale and possession of \”military-style\” semi-automatic assault weapons
  • – 85 percent oppose proposals to allow teachers to carry guns
  • – 98 percent favor extending criminal and mental background checks for all gun purchases.
  •  — 87 percent support banning the sale and possession of high-capacity ammunition magazines.

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21 thoughts on “CEA: Teachers Support AWB, Background Chex, Oppose Arming Educators

  1. johngaltwhereru

    I Guess there is no longer any point in arguing whether liberals are in charge of indoctrinating our students.

    Where is the survey showing the percentage of CT teachers who oppose restricting the power of public sector unions, reforming Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid, curbing unsustainable public sector long term benefit packages or installing performance based pay?

    Where is the study indicating the percentage of CT teachers supporting tax increases on the rich, CAP and TAX redistribution legislation, or expansion of Government’s scope and power?

    Any guesses on what percentage of CT teachers who thought Occupy Wall Street consisted of deep thinking youths opposed to Corporate Cronyism but thought The TEA Party consisted of ignorant racist rednecks who exist because they are angry a black man is President?

    This survey was about as valuable as asking 400 residents of Philadelphia’s 28th ward if they prefer Obama over Romney.

  2. Sharpshooter

    Agreed…teacher should not be armed in schools…take one of the already, top-heavy administration positions in each school and add a law enforcement or military component to the present job description …. some, additional redistribution of responsibilities may be necessary at the administrative level, but there is no need to add head count when simple measures will do and existing personnel can be effectively utilized. If we leave it up to the Federal government, we’ll have TSA employees doing the job…who wants that?

  3. Kim

    notice the facts and figures presented here, unlike the lack of such data on the brief article about Colt wanting to be part of a ‘reasonable’ solution.

    No bias here.

  4. BobInThe2nd

    Top heavy with Administrators? At our school I count 3 admins to 63 teachers/paras. Thats 4.7%. That’s pretty low, lower than private industry.

    Arming teachers was never a serious idea, why did they even bother polling it?

  5. BobC

    How about allowing the 15% who are in favor of teachers being armed to do so? Required concealed carry…potential attackers won’t know who is armed. Problem solved.

    By the way, I teach and
    No one asked me.

    1. johngaltwhereru

      You have 63 teachers just in your one school out of hundreds of schools in Connecticut.

      They only polled 400 teachers. This is because they didn’t want any chance of non-overwhelming results they might have to publish.

      I have not read the methodology of the poll, as the EDUCATION based group didn’t find it important to cite this information. This is in contrast to everything educators teach at every advanced level of academia.

      My guess is the CEA sent this survey to areas they could be completely confident they could get the results they wanted.

  6. Sean Murphy

    Whether we like it or not, as long as schools are gun free zones, shooters are going to target them. People who want to do evil things look for an advantage.

    Home school or private school for any rational parent after this one. This poll shows that teachers do not understand reality. They are so uninformed that they cannot even do basic research into firearms. Banning high capacity solves nothing. Teachers clearly do not understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment, which goes to the whole point of our government.

    1. Kim

      “Teachers clearly do not understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment, which goes to the whole point of our government.”

      That is one of the most glaring and obvious examples of the weakness in our so-called educational system. A government-controlled monopoly on public education SHOULD be teaching about our history and the principles of freedeom that led to the American Revolution and the creation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

      Instead, they teach children to sing praises to our glorious leader and to accept nonsense without question. If our children are not taught about our history and the unique qualities of our Constitution and way of life as envisioned by our Founding Fathers, we are doomed to be European of Asian clones.

    1. Kim

      Mike, typical of your posts you carefully avoid using additional facts from your own sources that show how toothless your facts are in the face of reality. For example, you toss the phrase “CT is one of 18 states that allows certain people to carry weapons on campus” around as if that makes everything all right and puts CT on the cutting edge of personal freedom.

      In the link you provided, why didn’t you consider it important to point out the following paragraph:

      “Waxenberg said he knows of no district in Connecticut that allows a teacher to carry a gun to school. He added that 36 percent of the teachers — all from different schools — reported they have a police officer or school resource offier stationed at their school, and 22 percent have an armed officer. The telephone poll was conducted by Massachusetts-based Abacus Associates over the weekend.”

      Your agenda is so obvious it’s almost laughable

    2. Kim

      such laww as you quote, Mike, mean nothing when people can’t operate under them because someone with an agenda controls the outcome.

      “Waxenberg said he knows of no district in Connecticut that allows a teacher to carry a gun to school.”

      That’s NO DISTRICT – NONE.

      This is similar to how Chicago and Washington DC manipulate the Supreme Court decisions. Shame on you

  7. BobC

    Kim—as a point of information, all secondary students in CT must be offered, take and pass a Civics course in order to graduate.
    Unfortunately, while curriculum exists, there are few ways that administrators and Boards of education can effectively monitor an outright bias in the classroom.

    1. Kim

      thanks for the reply Bobc. I would find your reply more helpful if the contents of that civics course and the resultant exam were laid bare to the public. I’ll bet there isn’t one objective question about the reason for the Second Amendment. I’ll also bet there isn’t any meaningul, honest discussion about what led to the Second Amendment and what the founding fathers’ thoughts were on the subject. Further, I’d be willing to wager that if there WERE open discussions in the classroom, that any student who spoke honestly and knowledgably about the 2nd Amendment, indicating his support for our rights to own weapons for self defense, he would NOT get a favorable response or grade from the teacher. This is not education. This is indoctrination.

      Civics lessons should consist of more than simplistic facts such as ‘The constitution has 27 Amendments including the 10 known as the Bill of Rights’.

      Our freedoms are what make this country different from the rest throughout history. This history should be taught thoroughly, honestly, fully, completely and without bias. It should be mandatory but isn’t. Why not? Could it be because the educational system is controlled by the government, who has the MOST to gain from feeding pablum to those in their charge, and providing only minimal information about freedom and individual rights? That would be my guess

      1. Johngaltwhereru

        Kim,

        I am sure modern civics classes are presented in the framework of the greatness of collectivism and the outdated and racist nature of the Constitution and it’s supporters.

        My bigger concern is the way history is mis-taught.

        For example, I have yet to see a high school history book that fails to perpetuate the fallacy that FDR and The New Deal pulled us out of the Great Depression. There is never a mention of the fact that many economists believe FDR’s policies dramatically prolonged the Depression. It is also difficult to find a history text book that acknowledges the reality that WWII is what really pulled us out of the Depression.

  8. Mike Robinson

    Connecticut state law places this decision under local control in each town. There are about 195 elected School Boards in Connecticut. Each has the power to allow guns in their school district.

    This very same state law permits the 22% of Connecticut schools that do have armed officers today.

    http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/AJDocs/20130114_ConnecticutGuns.jpg

    I did leave out the other liberal states that allow guns in school: Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island.

    This is in sharp contrast to some other states where your children would be helpless against an armed intruder:

    Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee.

    Why don’t these states get it?

    http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/14/16468754-guns-already-allowed-in-schools-with-little-restriction-in-many-states?lite

    1. Kim

      laws are worthless if not administered fairly and without bias. The proof of that is in your own link which points out ““Waxenberg said he knows of no district in Connecticut that allows a teacher to carry a gun to school.”

      Do you expect us to believe that not one teacher has expressed a desire to carry their legally owned weapon onto school property? What about citizens, who are banned from doing so?

    2. Johngaltwhereru

      Mike,

      2 citations from NBC? Even if the information in your link is accurate, NBC is no longer a credible news source.

      Even The Courant appears objective and fact based compared to NBC.

  9. BobC

    Kim—I can only speak for what I do, and can assure you I cover the constitution in total, including the bill of rights. Currently my students are working on identifying a current bill of rights issue and writing a letter to the editor about that issue.
    Given the current climate many have chosen gun rights and the 2nd amendment. Many also have taken a pro 2nd amendment stance. I neither encourage that stance nor do I denigrate that stance.

    1. Kim

      Thanks bobc. I appreciate your sense of objectivity and your willingness to teach such an important subject to students who rely on their teachers to provide truth in the classroom.

      I’m puzzled by your statement, though: “Given the current climate many have chosen gun rights and the 2nd amendment. Many also have taken a pro 2nd amendment stance.” Are these not the same positions, or did you mistype?

  10. Kim

    Would these teachers be the group that was polled by UCONN for it’s latest ‘survey’ proclaiming that most adults in CT favor gun control?

    Does it have anything to do with Malloy’s plan to give UCONN a ton of our money for ‘science’, etc?

    One of the bloggers here used to say ‘follow the dots’

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