Dis guy agrees wid dat guy that doze guys is bad guys.
Certainly takes the dis-guise off of these guys. Simply beautiful video.
I am looking to find an honest politician with the LCD glow from my computer. The flying dutchman has an easier task than mine.
WASHINGTON – The Democratic leader of the Senate Intelligence Committee said Monday that the White House appears to be responsible for some leaks of classified information.
“I think the White House has to understand that some of this is coming from their ranks,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein told a World Affairs Council forum.
A Pakistani court imposed a 33-year sentence Wednesday on a doctor who assisted the CIA in the hunt for Osama bin Laden, prompting dismay among U.S. officials and warnings that the punishment will exacerbate strained relations and could lead to cuts in aid.
NEW YORK — She’s posed on the red carpet at Cannes in a flowing designer gown, at Deauville in a sleek black bustier and palazzo pants. She exchanges e-mails with Naomi Watts. Sean Penn hung out at her house. Not for nothing have they called Valerie Plame Wilson the Glamorous Spy…
“I have found it a real challenge to be a public person,” Plame Wilson said in an interview this week from Santa Fe, where she now lives with her husband, former ambassador Joe Wilson, and their 10-year-old twins. “I was in a world where discretion was good. All of a sudden that changed overnight. That was not easy at all.”
Doesn’t really touch “Wag the Dog” does it? Or Willie Nelson’s charity song “Old Shoe” complete with disabled vets? Or the French walking away from the UN Arms inspection Committee in 1998 after being informed by US Inspectors that the Presidency was manipulating the results to justify further aggression against Iraq for non-existent WMDs.
“These Guys” is poetry compared to the prose of “Wag The Dog” and such. Both very meaningful as well as other forms may be.
But unlike the fiction of “Wag the Dog” or “Old Shoe” these are real characters who did real, documented things. And a real army that was really sent to Iraq. *in my best New Jersey Italian accent* And for what? So those guys could get their butts reelected? The observation that an entire army had to “eat it” to get that guy—an action for which we will pay for years—is a real-world, depressing fact.
THe table was set in 1998 with Operation Desert Fox which concluded its bombing run of Iraq they Day Clinton was impeached. He should have been impeached for crimes against humanity.
December 1998 aso marked the end of UNSCOM, the United Nations Special Commission for Weapons INspection, as the bombings were a bi-Lateral US/UK operation in defiance of the Security Council which began investgating the published claims that the Clinton Presidency and State Dept were using the Ispections to antagonize Iraq and justify US aggression through reporting inaccuracies and distortions of WMD capabiity.
That’s when the table was set. While the US was imposing sanctions on Iraq that devestated their child nutrition programs and impaired the quality of life for a decade hoping to encite riot while starving out Saddam Hussein with no concern for the civilian Iraqi population and in fact telling them: if you want food, medicine, water, and electricity then rebel against your leader.
Yes, those things are true, Richard, and I agree that morally it was a terribly callous strategy in relation to the civilian population of Iraq.
But you appeared to be starting a discussion about Wag the Dog, not to mention the cynical song “Old Shoe” that was part of that film. I enjoyed the film and its analysis of political operatives and directors.
I do think that this video, in two minutes, surpassed what Wag did in two hours.
I can’t add anything to what has already been said. move on.org should buy it advertising space in TV spots in October.
I would throw some cash for that one.
Colin, didn’t they leave out a few of these guys (and girls)?
Anyone who thinks that the belief that Iraq had WMDs was a Bush creation probably also believes that an $8,000 credit would revive the housing market in 2009 or 2010, that “Cash for Clunkers” was something other than a colossal waste of time, that Obamacare will actually cut health care costs or that the Bush tax cuts actually cost us income tax revenue.
Colin, Colin, Colin. While it is a cute story, most of it would receive poor grades from fact checkers. First, to show Mitt’s face at the close and say all “dos guys” now work for “dis guy” is, in the narrator’s vernacular “bull shit”. You have fallen for the first page of the Axelrod playbook – tie Romney to Bush, truth be damned.
I had a strongly worded letter to the Courant published in late winter 2003 criticizing W Bush leading up to the invasion. Not too many were critizing Bush at that time. Remember his approval rating included Hillary. I feared at the time that I had been placed on the no fly list. I accused Bush of creating his own private war. And I protested that stupid war in DC on 3/15/03.
For some unknown reason, I wasn’t placed on the no fly list.
That Republican initiated war will have negative consequences for decades to come. Even today, Iran is using Iraqi air space to send arms to Syria.
I will never vote for a republican president. Never.
How did that JFK/LBJ/Democrat thing in Vietnam strike you? – good policy leading to 55,000 dead young Americans and one million Vietnamese? Also seems that we entered Korea under Truman/Democrats, if memory serves. Does that stop you from voting for Democrats for President?
Slight addendum. Viet Nam was begun under Ike. A shame because he was the last good republican pres. we had. This was a black mark for sure but I don’t think he would have let it escalate as it had.
It was 1967 and I was all of 14 years old when I took the overnight train to DC to protest the Vietnam Nam War in October of that year. What were you doing then? Picking your nose in prep school?
You see, I never cared a hoot about which President or Party started a stupid war. I cared and still do care about stopping STUPID wars.
Just so I understand your “logic”, you would never vote for a Republican for President because George Bush was President when we invaded Iraq. In other words, one dumb Republican move forever disqualifies all future Republicans. But, when LBJ escalated a small conflict into the largest war since WWII, that does not disqualify future Democrats? I guess you are saying that Vietnam was not on your personal list of “STUPID” wars? Fortunately, a Republican Prresident ended that war.
Speaking of “Wag the Dog”…
B.J. Klinton’s speaking last night at the Dem convention reminds me how at the very time he was denying (under oath and on camera) his war on behalf of the tobacco industry against women he directed an attack on the aspirin factory in Sudan. My recollection is that the evidence that Iraq/al-Quaida had used the facility for production of weapons of mass destruction was pretty weak.
Former Clinton administration counter terrorism advisor Richard Clarke and former national security advisor Sandy Berger also noted the facilities alleged ties with the former Iraqi government. Clarke also cited Iraq’s $199,000 contract with al Shifa for veterinary medicine under the UN’s Oil for Food Program. David Kay, a former UN weapons inspector also said that Iraq may have assisted in the construction of the Al-Shifa plant, noting that Sudan would be unlikely to have the technical knowledge to produce VX.
Officials later acknowledged, however, “that the evidence that prompted President Clinton to order the missile strike on the Shifa plant was not as solid as first portrayed. Indeed, officials later said that there was no proof that the plant had been manufacturing or storing nerve gas, as initially suspected by the Americans, or had been linked to Osama bin Laden, who was a resident of Khartoum in the 1980s.”
BeanBrainBilly, the VietNam War was initiated by I like Ike.
But nice try.
Ike had a handful of MAAG – military traing mission in Vietnam since the French left in 1956. We have military trainers in dozens of countries around the world, but we are not at war in these places – Training is different than war – just apples and oranges. The first US casualties were two trainers in 1959 – not much of a war – just before JFK was elected. In May 1961, the first 100 special forces troops were deployed by JFK, and the shooting began, leading to 55,000 US deaths under JFK and JBJ. Now that was war, and they could have stopped the escalation and death any time. Sorry, Ike sent a handfull of trainers, never authorized or conducted a war there. But the myth apparently makes you libs feel good, like you can blame Ike for all the dead GIs.